Originally Posted by wogihao

hmm mostly people who train i cant tell that they do unless there wearing a wife beater ect or they tell me.

theres only a few people you see in everyday life that are that big that you can see it through street clothes. and then they could be a fatty.

I guess you know you made it when you need custom clothes (im not talking about some brand gym wear) i meen hand made stuff - thats big.

Its hard to say that when you have stoped makeing progress and its very hard - that could indicate a number of things probably that the diet is wrong/lifestlye or training is preventing you from moving forward. My gym is full of plastic gansters like that - they beleve there the **** because they wear there wife beater and a Gasp cap.

The other problem is if you train in a provential gym odds are your fast going to become one of the "big" guys there - however when you goto a good place in the city (temple gym/muscleworks/genisis) your going to be near the bottom of the pile. It deffinitly puts it into perspective especialy if you visit there close to a compition.