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Old 27-12-2007, 05:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: The Only Workout Info You Will Ever Need
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Originally Posted by Bulldozer View Post
Yes they are 2 different sports and your the one who made the comparison to start with bud, not me

Im not talking about guys who use boat loads of gear, peptides and site enhancment oils (and dont kid yaself, the pro's do use them) and have great genetics. (guys such as Ray) That is the far end of the scale.

Im talking about the average joe wanting to bulk up and build lean body mass. Not step on stage!! But to actually build some mass. IMO PL style routines are more effective at this than BB routines. At least for the begginer/intermediate trainer.

This board and others like it are full of threads started by guys who have recently started BB (last year or so) and looking to gain mass, but finding it difficult. They post up there training and surprize, surprize they are doing a typical BB routine, 3 or 4 day split, training each bodypart once a week using 8 to 12 sets a bodypart. Hitting the muscle from all angles, blah blah blah, yada yada yada.

Now show me a thread when a guy has just started BB and is having trouble gaining mass with a training program that concentrates on squats, deads, bench, ohp and heavy rowing for example. Training 2 or 3 times a week using only basic movements with maybe a 5x5 rep range and concentrating on getting stronger , In other words training more like a powerlifter would.

I have been on the boards for about 18 months, i post on atleast 10 boards and have read thousands of threads and have yet to see the later, but have seen hundereds of the former. Just an example of what im talking about

Im not saying BB techniques dont work for some people. (they obviously do) But high volume and high frequency training doesnt work for a lot of guys. Especially while training drug free (which i hope a guy with only a year or so of experience would be)

IMO , as i said earlier in the thread. To start off with i believe you should build a solid strength foundation before you make a switch to hypothropy based training.

Look at some of the best BB of all time, franco, arnold, ronnie to name just a few, they all started out as powerlifters. They built the foundation and then made the switch to bodybuilding.

In other words train more like a powerlifter to start. Also anyone that thinks that low rep training doesnt build muscle is deluded .
Quality post bully. Quality.

Volume/Hypertrophy training isn't for the trainees who have 'recently' started their training (unless they are doing it under supervision with a trainer who is monitoring their progress on a weekly basis) - and that is something which is missed out when routines like that are published on the net/in magazines.

PL style training - or if you like focussing on the basics - is IMHO the best way forward when starting training, and its certainly has its place and should be used even when people beleive they have broken out of that 'beginners' label.

+1 Sir.
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