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**hackskii** · 05-11-2007, 03:21 PM

I have seen this before, especially using compounds like deca and tran (mostly deca).
So, were any of those compounds in your steroid mix last cycle?

Being so young and manipulating your hormones would not be a good idea in my book but hell, lets just see if we can sort this out.

Ready?
Go buy 20,000iu of HCG.
Go buy 45 tabs of nolva.
Go buy 60 tabs of clomid.

Start them all the same day.
2500iu HCG EOD X 8 (16 days total)
100mg clomid a day but split that in two doses (50mg x 2) 30 days.
20mg nolva a day for 45 days.

As woody said, nolva did jack for my recovery.
Clomid works very well with me.
Remember there is a test called the clomid stimulation test to test out the pituitary for LH.
Nolva is not used for this.
Remember, both nolva and clomid are agonists and antagonists to estrogen.
They both pretty much do the same thing but act diffrently on diffrent receptor sites.
both work better than any combination of one.

Also, I remember you suggested you took some anti-depressants and other anxiety drugs and all of those can hinder your recovery, or even lower base normal test levels.

Before you do anything drastic I would run another PCT.

But please tell me the lenght of last cycle, the doses, and the compounds.
This might make more light of things.

dont worry man, the plan above is proven for success and has been used many many times with only a very slight percentage it didnt work for.
Even at that, I have one other thing in (or two), to toss into the mix for success.
You will be alright.

When you take the HCG, shoot that in the late afternoon, for some reason the nuts seem to respond better for me when I am asleep on HCG, but it it keeps you up then you will have to shoot mornings.

Take no aspirin with the use of HCG, and if you can help it, I would not take any of your other meds for anxiety if you can help it.

Zinc just before bed would be helpfull if one might be defficient in zinc, other than that it is a very mild aromatase inhibitor.

Chin up mate, no need to worry just yet.
Once you come out of this smelling like a rose, you will need to post the new and inproved blood tests.

05-11-2007, 03:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,049	Re: My Test Levels I have seen this before, especially using compounds like deca and tran (mostly deca). So, were any of those compounds in your steroid mix last cycle? Being so young and manipulating your hormones would not be a good idea in my book but hell, lets just see if we can sort this out. Ready? Go buy 20,000iu of HCG. Go buy 45 tabs of nolva. Go buy 60 tabs of clomid. Start them all the same day. 2500iu HCG EOD X 8 (16 days total) 100mg clomid a day but split that in two doses (50mg x 2) 30 days. 20mg nolva a day for 45 days. As woody said, nolva did jack for my recovery. Clomid works very well with me. Remember there is a test called the clomid stimulation test to test out the pituitary for LH. Nolva is not used for this. Remember, both nolva and clomid are agonists and antagonists to estrogen. They both pretty much do the same thing but act diffrently on diffrent receptor sites. both work better than any combination of one. Also, I remember you suggested you took some anti-depressants and other anxiety drugs and all of those can hinder your recovery, or even lower base normal test levels. Before you do anything drastic I would run another PCT. But please tell me the lenght of last cycle, the doses, and the compounds. This might make more light of things. dont worry man, the plan above is proven for success and has been used many many times with only a very slight percentage it didnt work for. Even at that, I have one other thing in (or two), to toss into the mix for success. You will be alright. When you take the HCG, shoot that in the late afternoon, for some reason the nuts seem to respond better for me when I am asleep on HCG, but it it keeps you up then you will have to shoot mornings. Take no aspirin with the use of HCG, and if you can help it, I would not take any of your other meds for anxiety if you can help it. Zinc just before bed would be helpfull if one might be defficient in zinc, other than that it is a very mild aromatase inhibitor. Chin up mate, no need to worry just yet. Once you come out of this smelling like a rose, you will need to post the new and inproved blood tests. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.