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**hackskii** · 02-10-2007, 06:10 PM

Estrogen rebound is no joke, problem is blocking estrogen makes the receptors very sensitive and once you quit the AI it will get flooded with estrogen and those sensitive estrogen receptors will be fresh to make some nice tits….lol
One way around that is to taper the AI.
Or if you are going into PCT then you can take nolva and clomid with pretty much no worries about rebounding, but even those you should taper.

I take Aromasin with HCG myself and I also include nolva and clomid for PCT, I take bigger doses than most with regards to HCG, so I want to keep overall estrogen down some. Sadly you cant get away using Arimidex nor femara with nolva as it seriously lowers blood plasma levels of most AI’s with the exception of Aromasin where it doesn’t.
If you are considering an aggressive approach with HCG I would run the Aromasin with it and 2 days after you stop HCG, then you can drop the Aromasin and continue with the nolva and clomid.

But honestly if you want a painless transition into recovery I would run a taper of testosterone. Tren seems to be pretty suppressive I have found and usually needs some time from last jab for a PCT to be effective.
Last PCT didn’t go all that good and felt either the tren totally wasn’t out o my system of the liquid stuff I bought for PCT was garbage.
So, I went back on test to wait out the tren.
Deca is notorious for shutdown for months afterward and recovery is seriously compromised.

As far as the GH and IGF are concerned I do feel they aid in recovery, especially when doing HCG.

So, yes, I would do some test, I would also taper the test and you have the option of low dose HCG while on test to get testicular function back, or do the aggressive approach, it is your choice.
But while on test, I would run an AI with that, not for any other reason other than estrogen being very suppressive.
We are not looking to recover here, just keep gains, wait out the suppressive effects of tren to clear, and allowing the body to taper off gear.
Ideally I would taper the test down to TRT doses just before coming off.
If you get the nuts rolling, recovery is a breeze.

Sorry for being so vague here, I want you to decide how you want to do it and I can give you some guidance. After all it is your body and you should decide just which way you need to go. Once you figure it all out you will love how easy it is to recover.

Forget the trib, it is pretty much worthless.

Let me know what you decide then we can go in the direction you want.

02-10-2007, 06:10 PM	#28 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,671	Re: Understanding PCT Estrogen rebound is no joke, problem is blocking estrogen makes the receptors very sensitive and once you quit the AI it will get flooded with estrogen and those sensitive estrogen receptors will be fresh to make some nice tits….lol One way around that is to taper the AI. Or if you are going into PCT then you can take nolva and clomid with pretty much no worries about rebounding, but even those you should taper. I take Aromasin with HCG myself and I also include nolva and clomid for PCT, I take bigger doses than most with regards to HCG, so I want to keep overall estrogen down some. Sadly you cant get away using Arimidex nor femara with nolva as it seriously lowers blood plasma levels of most AI’s with the exception of Aromasin where it doesn’t. If you are considering an aggressive approach with HCG I would run the Aromasin with it and 2 days after you stop HCG, then you can drop the Aromasin and continue with the nolva and clomid. But honestly if you want a painless transition into recovery I would run a taper of testosterone. Tren seems to be pretty suppressive I have found and usually needs some time from last jab for a PCT to be effective. Last PCT didn’t go all that good and felt either the tren totally wasn’t out o my system of the liquid stuff I bought for PCT was garbage. So, I went back on test to wait out the tren. Deca is notorious for shutdown for months afterward and recovery is seriously compromised. As far as the GH and IGF are concerned I do feel they aid in recovery, especially when doing HCG. So, yes, I would do some test, I would also taper the test and you have the option of low dose HCG while on test to get testicular function back, or do the aggressive approach, it is your choice. But while on test, I would run an AI with that, not for any other reason other than estrogen being very suppressive. We are not looking to recover here, just keep gains, wait out the suppressive effects of tren to clear, and allowing the body to taper off gear. Ideally I would taper the test down to TRT doses just before coming off. If you get the nuts rolling, recovery is a breeze. Sorry for being so vague here, I want you to decide how you want to do it and I can give you some guidance. After all it is your body and you should decide just which way you need to go. Once you figure it all out you will love how easy it is to recover. Forget the trib, it is pretty much worthless. Let me know what you decide then we can go in the direction you want. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.