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if they have creatine in i can just about say "yes there is some point" but to believe an NO product results in hypertrophy is simply worrying

if you want a pump

1 - grow adeqaute mass to gain a pump
2 - manipulate carbs and sodium/water
3 - train in the manner of a pump

if you want a stimulant, use a cheap caffeine pill, but again that long term will blunt insulin sensitivity and therefore the ability to gain muscle

the shuttling of nutrients touted by NO again, easy enough

train
carbs
insulinogenic AAs

same response if not better

i cannot see any point of spending large amounts of money on a 'pump'

its a nightclub bodybuiders dream come true, yet post training the pump simply disappears and where are you left? back where you were

if they were that good, bodybuilders would not use carb ups before shows, they would use NO alone...do they? no but that wasnt being answered in a post when i asked before

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