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**hackskii** · 10-06-2004, 09:33 PM

I have been doing a lot of reading on cortisol an catabolism. Cortisol post cycle can eat up some of those hard earned gains on cycle. There is some natural cortisol suppression and thought to share this with you. Found in a book so I though I would type it up.

Natural post cycle tips.
Eating a broccoli 4 times a day (about a pound total) for some estrogen control. Adding 15,000 mg of Tribulas Terrestris daily (45% samponin content) can also ramp up LH levels some.
This in black is bad information, I am leaving it here instead of editing it just to show how things change with some good old common sense.....lol I have found trib to be absolutly worthless for PCT.Several OTC products contain phosphatidlserine. At a dosage of 800 mg daily phosphatidlserine is said to inhibit about 30% of cortisol production/activity, which is a start.

7-isopropoxyisoflavone (ipriflavone) is a weak partitioning agent that inhibits cortisol’s effects at the cellular level. About 1000 mg daily is necessary. 5-methyl-7-methoxyisoflavone is more potent than 7-isopropoxyisoflavone. It inhibits cortisol activity, and to some extent, its accumulation to a greater degree. Again about 1000 mg daily is necessary and works best when stacked with 7-iso. Interesting fact is that due to its molecule structure, 5-methyl does have some aromatase inhibitive value as well.

This is really cool here. I did not know why bodybuilders took so much vitamin C so here goes.

Vitamin-C, 1000 mg 3 times daily also inhibits cortisol formation. Ephedrine at a dosage of 25 mg-50 mg three times daily significantly inhibited catabolic activity when it was stacked with any other cortisol inhibiting goodie.

It takes a great deal of water to remove catabolic waste. A good daily multi-vitamin/mineral was a must. 15-50 grams of glutamine daily reduced protein loss (divided into 3-5 even dosages). Peptide glutamine is said to be best.

Ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate (OKG) treatment decreases muscle protein catabolism and/or increases synthesis, according to the metabolic situation. The anti-catabolic effect might not be from OKG alone. OKG increases the plasma concentrations of, for example, arginine, leucine, isoleucine, tyrosine, glutamine, proline, and ornithine. There are several studies that show these amino acids to have anabolic properties; hence, the anti-catabolic effect.

Clenbuterol too except we are not talking about prescription drugs at this time.

The effectiveness of any OTC product was highly dependant upon dosage and quality.

I will update this later when I find out more on blocking cortisol during and post cycle.

I did buy some cortislim from the internet and will be using this post cycle. It is also non prescription too. Supposed to block cortisol.

Cytadren is a prescription drug for inhibiting cortisol but I cant seem to get my hands on any so I think I will go the natural rout.

I will update this when I find more natural ways of doing post cycle therapy.
I wanted to focus on cortisol first before the Anti-E's and other estrogens.

10-06-2004, 09:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,694	cortisol and catabolism fighting cortisol naturally. I have been doing a lot of reading on cortisol an catabolism. Cortisol post cycle can eat up some of those hard earned gains on cycle. There is some natural cortisol suppression and thought to share this with you. Found in a book so I though I would type it up. Natural post cycle tips. Eating a broccoli 4 times a day (about a pound total) for some estrogen control. Adding 15,000 mg of Tribulas Terrestris daily (45% samponin content) can also ramp up LH levels some. This in black is bad information, I am leaving it here instead of editing it just to show how things change with some good old common sense.....lol I have found trib to be absolutly worthless for PCT.Several OTC products contain phosphatidlserine. At a dosage of 800 mg daily phosphatidlserine is said to inhibit about 30% of cortisol production/activity, which is a start. 7-isopropoxyisoflavone (ipriflavone) is a weak partitioning agent that inhibits cortisol’s effects at the cellular level. About 1000 mg daily is necessary. 5-methyl-7-methoxyisoflavone is more potent than 7-isopropoxyisoflavone. It inhibits cortisol activity, and to some extent, its accumulation to a greater degree. Again about 1000 mg daily is necessary and works best when stacked with 7-iso. Interesting fact is that due to its molecule structure, 5-methyl does have some aromatase inhibitive value as well. This is really cool here. I did not know why bodybuilders took so much vitamin C so here goes. Vitamin-C, 1000 mg 3 times daily also inhibits cortisol formation. Ephedrine at a dosage of 25 mg-50 mg three times daily significantly inhibited catabolic activity when it was stacked with any other cortisol inhibiting goodie. It takes a great deal of water to remove catabolic waste. A good daily multi-vitamin/mineral was a must. 15-50 grams of glutamine daily reduced protein loss (divided into 3-5 even dosages). Peptide glutamine is said to be best. Ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate (OKG) treatment decreases muscle protein catabolism and/or increases synthesis, according to the metabolic situation. The anti-catabolic effect might not be from OKG alone. OKG increases the plasma concentrations of, for example, arginine, leucine, isoleucine, tyrosine, glutamine, proline, and ornithine. There are several studies that show these amino acids to have anabolic properties; hence, the anti-catabolic effect. Clenbuterol too except we are not talking about prescription drugs at this time. The effectiveness of any OTC product was highly dependant upon dosage and quality. I will update this later when I find out more on blocking cortisol during and post cycle. I did buy some cortislim from the internet and will be using this post cycle. It is also non prescription too. Supposed to block cortisol. Cytadren is a prescription drug for inhibiting cortisol but I cant seem to get my hands on any so I think I will go the natural rout. I will update this when I find more natural ways of doing post cycle therapy. I wanted to focus on cortisol first before the Anti-E's and other estrogens. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by hackskii; 08-06-2008 at 06:22 PM.