| yer hackskii older builders do have big arms most of the time my dad who is also a builder has big arms and hes 44 bit he also has a big belly to and i dont lol, but yer i think it is true what you are saying. Ill take the advice of panthro and yourself and ease off the arms/ biceps its just hard to go easy on the muscles that you wont to grow the most not that im transfixed on my amrs i work my whole body but the arms just dont look as impressive as the rest but they are very tonned even though when i was training them i would do low reps with big weight for size,so this also to me indicates overtraining , anyway problem sorted ill let you know how it goes |