k man

were did hear that rubbish from mate ?

Tbol is very different to dbol

have you actualy used both ?

Sprint Tbol is a great med for adding lean gains with minimal water retention , at low doses there is basicaly no water but at doses of 80mg ed and over you will experience some water but no noticable

I have run tbol amny many times over the past year and a half at vrious doses , highest was 100mg ed and its was great , excellent for condition and lean gains but not as good as winny or anavar for strength

iv use BD , UKB and my own made ones and all as good as each other


Few bits of info you might want to read

Schumann W.
Institut fur Mikrobiologie und experimentelle Therapie
(ZIMET), Jena.
Disposition and excretion of the anabolic steroid Oral-
Turinabol (1;4-chloro-17 alpha-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-17
beta-hydroxy-3-one) were investigated in male volunteers.
Following single p.o. and i.v. administration of the tritium-
labelled compound the plasma concentration courses of total
radioactivity (1 and 1-metabolites) and of the unchanged
parent drug as well as the urinary excretion were estimated.
From these data model independent pharmacokinetic parameters
based on statistical moments were calculated. 1 is almost
completely absorbed after p.o. administration of 10 mg per
volunteer. Peak concentrations of total radioactivity and of 1
in plasma were reached about 3 h p.a. Irregularities
observed in the plasma level profile following both p.o. and
i.v. administration of 1 are due to a marked enterohepatic
circulation. Orally given 1 is subject to a first-pass
effect, resulting in a diminished systematic availability.
The AUC-ratio of the unchanged drug and the total
radioactivity of 1 : 13 shows the predominance of metabolites
in plasma. After i.v. administration the disposition of
unchanged 1 was found biphasically with a terminal half-life
of 16 h. 1 and its metabolites are preferentially excreted
via the kidneys. The urinary total radioactivity represented
about 60% of the dose following both administrations. Due to
its affinity to SHBG 1 is able to compete for the protein
binding of testosterone, resulting in an increased plasma
level of non protein-bound testosterone.






Oral Turinabol
British Dragon, as well as a couple of other underground labs, has recently been producing Oral Turinabol (4-dehydromethyltestosterone), made popular by its widespread use in the GDR Olympic doping program many years ago. Oral Turinabol, often called "OT" or "T-bol" by athletes and bodybuilders, was the most widely used drug for the East German Olympic Doping Program, known formally as "State Plan 14.25."
OT was given to roughly ten thousand athletes whose results were meticulously recorded by scientists, coaches, and doctors working for the East German Olympic program, and consequently it's one of the most exhaustively researched anabolic/androgenic steroids ever produced, with regards to its effects on strength, speed, and athletic training. Jenapharm, the original manufacturer of Oral-Turinabol, discontinued the product just after the GDR program went under.
This drug can be seen as a cross between Dianabol (Methandrostenolone) and Anavar (Oxandrolone), taking what many feel are the best features of each of these drugs and combining them into a nice, clean bulking compound. Oral Turinabol is actually a derivative of Testosterone (the base structure is that of Dianabol, actually) and is typically referred to as a cross between Clostebol and Dianabol.
The base structure is just like Dianabol, with the same 4-chloro alteration seen in Clostebol, which prevents conversion to estrogen. Fortunately, the 4-chloro alteration makes it less subject to aromatization, so gynecomastia (development of breast tissue in males) isn't an issue, nor is excess water retention. Thus, the gains seen on OT are very clean and not the watery gains seen with its sister compound, Dianabol.

Just like Anavar and Dianabol, OT is a 17-alpha-alkylated steroid, which allows it to be orally active and survive the first pass through the liver without being destroyed. Unfortunately, this also increases liver toxicity. OT is, however, not too worrisome in this respect, as dosages typically hover around the 50mg/day mark.
Oral Turinabol's reappearance on the scene — due to some enterprising underground labs — wasn't surprising to many people, myself included. In fact, it was almost easy to predict, given the availability of steroid powders and the laws of supply and demand. It's consequently now one of the few drugs to be in high demand among both athletes as well as bodybuilders, regardless of whether they're on a bulking cycle or cutting cycle. This is due to its "sexy" reputation from the GDR doping days, I suspect.
Athletes who've recently been able to use this drug have reported that it's nearly as good for bulking as Dianabol, but with much less water retention. From what I've seen, weight gain with Oral Turinabol is generally a bit less than what's experienced with classic oral bulking agents such as Dianabol or Anadrol, but the gains are much more "dry" and lean.
Many of OT's new fans have compared the quality of gains experienced with Oral Turinabol to be similar to Anavar, but with more actual weight gain.




High dose Turinabol user gets testicular tumourHigh dose Turinabol user gets testicular tumour
Intratesticular leiomyosarcoma in a young man after high dose doping with Oral-Turinabol: a case report.

Froehner M, Fischer R, Leike S, Hakenberg OW, Noack B, Wirth MP.

Department of Urology, Universitaetsklinikum "Carl Gustav Carus," Technical University of Dresden, Dresden, Germany.

BACKGROUND: Androgenic anabolic steroids have been suspected of activity as carcinogens in the development of carcinoma and angiosarcoma of the liver and adenocarcinoma of the prostate. Although the proliferation of smooth muscle cells is stimulated by sexual steroids, to the authors' knowledge a possible relation between androgenic anabolic steroids and the development of leiomyosarcoma has not previously been reported in humans. METHODS: A 32-year-old man underwent right radical orchiectomy for a tumor of the upper pole of the right testicle. Routine histopathologic examination and immunohistochemical staining were performed. RESULTS: The tumor was identified as an intratesticular leiomyosarcoma based on its typical growth pattern and the characteristic immunohistochemical staining profile. The patient reported a 5-year history of systematic use of high dose Oral-Turinabol (4-chloro-1-dehydro-17alpha-methylteststerone) that began at age 18 years and stopped approximately 9 years before presentation. CONCLUSIONS: The rarity of intratesticular leiomyosarcoma, the experimental induction of similar tumors in animals by androgens and estrogens, and the unusually young age at presentation of the patient in the current study support the hypothesis that high dose doping with androgenic anabolic steroids could have played a cocarcinogenic role in the development of the tumor in this case. Copyright 1999 American Cancer Society.