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Tatyana · 27-02-2006, 04:00 AM

Let's look at the downside of women doing gear:

The changes will be PERMANENT and IRREVERSIBLE! This seems to usally include a deeper voice, squared jaw which may make the face look more 'masculine', and an enlarged clitoris. It may permanently affect your menstral cycle, making it irregular and possibly reduce your fertility.

How will your partner feel if he wakes up to the new you? Do you want to have children?

I think this is a major issue that needs to be addressed. Dating as a muscular female brings ALL sorts of odd issues, and the muscle worshippers and 'closet gay' men really LOVE muscular women, mostly just for how they look and the desire to be dominated, NOT for the woman/person that you are! OH you DO NOT want to get me started on the muscle fetish thing, really, I will probably be BANNED!

Also speaking of partners, while you are on a cycle, you CANNOT take birth control pills, these two counteract each other, so you WILL NEED ANOTHER FORM of birth control, as you still may get pregnant!

What are you taking gear for? Do you want to compete? I can't really see any other reason, and then you are dedicating yourself to a life long career/life around BBing cause MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT GET THE GEARED UP GIRLIE THING!

Maybe have a go at competing, if this is your goal, to see if you really want to have a life like this. Seriously, only the end result, some of the pics in mags, stuff like that, is GLAM, everything else before the pics is well, at times HELL! I love the training and BB comp diet (but I am weird!), loads HATE it after one season! I do get MAJOR STRESS about competing and the last week does my head in. GLAMOUROUS LIFESTYLE, no, not really. It is more 'billy no-mates' as you can't go out and socialise as much, and what are you going to do, DRINK, right! OUT as a competitive BBer.

16 weeks, or 4 months every year on the diet, MINIMUM for most. Often more! And it can be a very EXPENSIVE little hobby job! Tan costs close to 50 quid a comp, plus travel, plus accomodation (if needed), plus a bikini (figure 'bling' suits are CRAZY expensive), and just ONE bikini is not enough! Factor in all the extra food, supplements, gym expenses.......................................... ...............Cause when you compete, you HAVE to stay on track!

Steroids only seem to be required to make it the OLYMPIA, being a pro in the IFBB. This is NOT an attainable goal for most, and it is possible to still compete and do quite well, naturally! It's the natural, or still very female looking BBers that get the majority of the photoshoots, ads, what have you!

Prize money for Miss Olympia is only something like $ 10, 000, compared to Mr. Olympia's $100, 000!

Don't get me wrong, despite all the stress I BLOODY LOVE IT. Not many make a living out of BBing though and need to make money in other ways. Normal jobs are not always super condusive to the comp training. One of my dear buddies is one of the writers for a major muscle mag, and he knows EVERYBODY, especially all the girlie BBers 'the hunnies'.

Two things he has told me that have stuck in my head; most of the women on steroids don't see it masculinising them, famous quote 'Oh yah I have done a little but I think I got away with it'; secondly, most women do not compete for more than 3 years, he says he thinks it might be due to 'burn out'.

A top pro female BBer who HAS done gear, now quite adverse to it has told me, 'Gear won't get you anything'. She also listed where some of her former competitors were now, and things like 'crack whore', and disappeared factored quite heavily!

So think long and hard, have you really maximised your diet and training? It is easy to think that there is a 'magic bullet'. I would recommend seriously training like a maniac for a year or two before even CONSIDERING taking anything. And I do mean TRAIN, lunging and squats till you puke, pushing that extra rep makes you cry, and sometimes feeling like your head might explode from the PAIN. Otherwise, even if you do take gear, it will be easy come, easy go on the muscle front, BUT all the other 'side-effects' will still be there.

I may get really flamed for this, I do know some women that have taken stuff and are still ok, still look good, haven't had any real problems, but YOU DON"T KNOW HOW IT WILL AFFECT YOU!

I am posting this as I seem to be getting a lot of requests for info on gear for the ladies, and in all honesty, I don't know much about the details, and I don't really want to research it! This is my position, which is basically DON"T DO IT!

If you still want to, make sure you find out as much as you can, and from GOOD sources, and for God's sake, please tell your GP what you are up to. They have to keep things confidential, so..........................

The poison is all in the dosage.

27-02-2006, 04:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tatyana My name is EARL Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On my bloody bike doing cardio Posts: 3,463	OK so that was the PRO Steroids Let's look at the downside of women doing gear: The changes will be PERMANENT and IRREVERSIBLE! This seems to usally include a deeper voice, squared jaw which may make the face look more 'masculine', and an enlarged clitoris. It may permanently affect your menstral cycle, making it irregular and possibly reduce your fertility. How will your partner feel if he wakes up to the new you? Do you want to have children? I think this is a major issue that needs to be addressed. Dating as a muscular female brings ALL sorts of odd issues, and the muscle worshippers and 'closet gay' men really LOVE muscular women, mostly just for how they look and the desire to be dominated, NOT for the woman/person that you are! OH you DO NOT want to get me started on the muscle fetish thing, really, I will probably be BANNED! Also speaking of partners, while you are on a cycle, you CANNOT take birth control pills, these two counteract each other, so you WILL NEED ANOTHER FORM of birth control, as you still may get pregnant! What are you taking gear for? Do you want to compete? I can't really see any other reason, and then you are dedicating yourself to a life long career/life around BBing cause MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT GET THE GEARED UP GIRLIE THING! Maybe have a go at competing, if this is your goal, to see if you really want to have a life like this. Seriously, only the end result, some of the pics in mags, stuff like that, is GLAM, everything else before the pics is well, at times HELL! I love the training and BB comp diet (but I am weird!), loads HATE it after one season! I do get MAJOR STRESS about competing and the last week does my head in. GLAMOUROUS LIFESTYLE, no, not really. It is more 'billy no-mates' as you can't go out and socialise as much, and what are you going to do, DRINK, right! OUT as a competitive BBer. 16 weeks, or 4 months every year on the diet, MINIMUM for most. Often more! And it can be a very EXPENSIVE little hobby job! Tan costs close to 50 quid a comp, plus travel, plus accomodation (if needed), plus a bikini (figure 'bling' suits are CRAZY expensive), and just ONE bikini is not enough! Factor in all the extra food, supplements, gym expenses.......................................... ...............Cause when you compete, you HAVE to stay on track! Steroids only seem to be required to make it the OLYMPIA, being a pro in the IFBB. This is NOT an attainable goal for most, and it is possible to still compete and do quite well, naturally! It's the natural, or still very female looking BBers that get the majority of the photoshoots, ads, what have you! Prize money for Miss Olympia is only something like $ 10, 000, compared to Mr. Olympia's $100, 000! Don't get me wrong, despite all the stress I BLOODY LOVE IT. Not many make a living out of BBing though and need to make money in other ways. Normal jobs are not always super condusive to the comp training. One of my dear buddies is one of the writers for a major muscle mag, and he knows EVERYBODY, especially all the girlie BBers 'the hunnies'. Two things he has told me that have stuck in my head; most of the women on steroids don't see it masculinising them, famous quote 'Oh yah I have done a little but I think I got away with it'; secondly, most women do not compete for more than 3 years, he says he thinks it might be due to 'burn out'. A top pro female BBer who HAS done gear, now quite adverse to it has told me, 'Gear won't get you anything'. She also listed where some of her former competitors were now, and things like 'crack whore', and disappeared factored quite heavily! So think long and hard, have you really maximised your diet and training? It is easy to think that there is a 'magic bullet'. I would recommend seriously training like a maniac for a year or two before even CONSIDERING taking anything. And I do mean TRAIN, lunging and squats till you puke, pushing that extra rep makes you cry, and sometimes feeling like your head might explode from the PAIN. Otherwise, even if you do take gear, it will be easy come, easy go on the muscle front, BUT all the other 'side-effects' will still be there. I may get really flamed for this, I do know some women that have taken stuff and are still ok, still look good, haven't had any real problems, but YOU DON"T KNOW HOW IT WILL AFFECT YOU! I am posting this as I seem to be getting a lot of requests for info on gear for the ladies, and in all honesty, I don't know much about the details, and I don't really want to research it! This is my position, which is basically DON"T DO IT! If you still want to, make sure you find out as much as you can, and from GOOD sources, and for God's sake, please tell your GP what you are up to. They have to keep things confidential, so.......................... The poison is all in the dosage.