Uriel

yeah apart from the anabolic part we all like (keeping you in a state of muscle growth)

There's the androgenic side, steroids cause secondry male chareteristics which don't bother us as we are male but women don't need beard growth, squaring of the jaw, developeent of the larynx etc

Anavar is just weak as p1ss, women get on better with week gear as it it has less pronounced androgenis effects but since women have very little natty test - they react well to another tiny bit

The trick for females is to pick gear and doses to get the best muscle growth they can with the least of the androgenic effects

I don't think I'm answering your question as I don't get what you mean.....how can we ignore the meat and potatoes of gear