Originally Posted by kingy_88

is there a certain point in BF% where you should/shouldn't take steroids, i am thinking of starting a cycle in a few months after i have got my BF down a bit but i have no desire to be ripped i just want size and strenght, having a six pack doesn't appeal to me. at the minute i think im about 16-18% but not 100% sure.

also while oncycle could i expect tomaby loose some bf due to the HIT training i would be doing or not due to water retention ??

planned cycle 500mg test enth 12 weeks d-bol kickstart, clomid+nolva and maby hgc pct.